Hayley Pearson: When the end of a radio gig is just the beginning

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Once upon a time, a radio colleague who’d lost his job asked me “Do people in upper management get training on the right way to sack someone?”

In any company – whether a person is being let go, fired or their position is being made redundant – there’s no easy way to break it to an employee that their services are no longer required.

As someone who was made redundant not once but twice during my own radio career, I know only too well how it feels to be blindsided.

You’d hope it could all be handled with grace and dignity, but too often, it’s cold and clumsy.

If these people were doctors, they’d be told their bedside manner sucks.

Hayley Pearson loves radio. But for a long time, she didn’t.

This week Hayley – co-host of Hayley & Max in the Morning on Adelaide’s Mix 102.3 – cried as she recalled on-air how losing a previous radio job left her with PTSD.

“I’m very well aware that in radio, you get fired. But you haven’t lived in radio, until you’ve been fired,” Hayley said.

“I have learnt there is a way that you do get rid of people, and you do it with kindness.”

“Mine wasn’t done with kindness. It hurt. A lot.”

“I won’t say where it was but – I literally have blocked out, I reckon, four years of my life, because it made me hate radio,” Hayley told co-host Max Burford.

Hayley, who was pregnant at the time, said the station was in the process of changing its whole look and feel.

“I just wanted answers. I just wanted to know if I was coming back after I had my baby. I just wanted to know so I could plan.”

But Hayley says her questions seemed to fall on deaf ears and, in the lead up to her departure, people started avoiding eye contact with her.

“I started having full panic attacks where I couldn’t breathe.”

In radio, we often feel we can’t take a day off when we’re sick, but, so stressed was Hayley, she decided to take a Mental Health Day.

Not long after, she got a call asking her to come into the station for a chat, where she was told she was being let go.

“My contract was ending, so that’s OK,” she said. “Obviously sad, but also fine.”

“I then walked out of the office, past my boss’s office, and he didn’t look up. He just sat in front of his desk as I walked past.”

Adding to her distress, Hayley says what she ended up telling her listeners was not a true reflection of the reason she was leaving.

She’s a firm believer that losing your job can be the circuit breaker that gets you out of your rut and opens up a world of possibilities you might otherwise never have considered.

Starting Adelady – a media platform which showcases South Australia – was Hayley’s saving grace.

“There are a lot of redundancies going on at the moment,” she said. “It’s hard. Life is hard.”

“Quite often, people are complacent in jobs and they’ll wait until something like that happens.”

“But sometimes, when you’re made redundant and you lose your job, it’s the best thing that will ever happen to you, because you will reset your brain and you will end up doing something that you want to do.”

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Bianca Dye
5 Jun 2025 - 1:19 pm

Oh wow! Hayley ! CAN RELATE!! I have been made redundant and lost my job a few times in my 32 years in radio and the way that a couple of people handled it over the years was absolutely brutal and horrible and very unkind and left me pretty scarred with a lot of unanswered questions as well 🙁 and I know SO many fellow radio people (often with extremely high profiles!?) that had the SAME awful experience and will never be public about it .. but it’s pretty horrible.. there is no easy way to sack someone I know but people can be KIND… KINDNESS & compassion when you’re about to totally pull the rug out from somebody’s entire life is not too much to ask is it??? ahhhh
We live and we learn.. game on moles xx good luck lovely

Dan Lonergan
8 Jun 2025 - 10:32 pm

Hi Hayley, I know exactly how you feel. I was made redundant in radio ten years ago and it still affects me today. I wonder whether I have PTSD caused by that although my doctor is convinced that is not the case. I felt I was treated badly by management who did not understand my mental health, which was intensified by this rejection in being made redundant. Management in radio at that time really disappointed me and I have had a couple of other jobs since where they offered me hardly any support as well in my opinion. Congrats on your podcast. I have gone down that path as well to get my radio and interview fix.

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